An email on election fraud to someone I respect...
This email was written to address, at length, an email I received from someone close to me who made the argument that there does not seem to be any evidence of election fraud, that Lindell and the AZ auditors should not be believed, and that the entire thing was widely debunked. These are the articles that were attached to the email, which I respond to at length below. Apologies for typos.
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/arizona-election-audit-cannot-accomplish-its-stated-goals-it-s-ncna1270262
Good morning,
With love and respect, I want to respond to this in full, including to the news articles.
I say ‘adamant opposition’, because my sense is that what you’re doing is finding potentially possible ways for the things I’m saying to be wrong and giving those full weight while they’re really mostly semantical ways to avoid what should (I believe), at this point, be obvious.
Rather than considering my case to be some outlandish ’theory’ as the mainstream media describes it, consider the two claims (Biden won, Trump won) as neutral possibilities, understand that election law should always be followed, and see where the facts lead.
And consider the position of the belief you hold - MAYBE you’re right, the media isn’t lying, the Democrats didn’t cheat, etc… If that’s the case, you’re in the clear. But there is no evidence, logical or otherwise, that supports that claim other than:
1) The TV reported Joe Biden as the winner
2) Former AG Bill Barr made this statement on December 1st: "To date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election”. He reaffirmed this statement recently.
3) This statement from CISA is the origin of the claim that this election is the ‘most secure in history’, an odd statement to make after having already announced to the world ten days prior that Iran had infiltrated the election / voter registries. It’s worth reading the statement in full and realizing it’s from November 12th. It wasn’t remotely accurate then (and they knew it) and it certainly is not now. The claims look laughable in retrospect, but this is still what the media repeats constantly.
4) The final piece referred to as ‘evidence’ is that Trump’s cases have been summarily dismissed on their merits. This is completely false. Cases were dismissed for all sorts of reasons, but the merits were not among them. There has yet been no court that has looked at evidence and found that the evidence was falsified. One found the evidence insufficient, one found that it didn’t prove fraud. Cases have been dismissed for standing, ‘mootness’, laches, and other reasons, but not because of the evidence. Here is a list of election cases from the Trump side, some of which are still ongoing, and there are more to come. The Supreme Court declined to hear a case brought by attorneys general from 19 states on ’standing’, which is a total abdication of duty, and Clarence Thomas wrote as much in his dissent. They will get another chance, and they’ll be forced to rule. The sooner the better, as everyone wants this to be over.
This is the full extent of the argument that Joe Biden won. None of this is proof of anything, other than a very flimsy case that what we’re told is true. If there was something beyond this, they wouldn’t be in a constant state of panic on television news every night and they wouldn’t be trying to dismiss audits as ‘fraudits’.
Before going on, I might as well address that part so we can get it out of the way.
First off, the corroboration of data is extensive and it’s also in the court record. It’s particularly strong in Antrim, Michigan. This is the DePerno suit in Antrim. Matthew DePerno is an excellent writer, so this is actually a fun read. All of the evidence is on his site as well. Keep in mind, the court is making its decisions while assuming his evidence is true (and it is). Consider what that alone means. https://www.depernolaw.com/uploads/2/7/0/2/27029178/[1]_motion_for_reconsideration_060921.pdf
As for Cyber Ninjas and the auditors, this is a hearing from May where they lay out their wealth of experience. You’d hear later in the hearing, if you went that far, that they have testified before the US Congress as expert witnesses. You should then ask, why is the media trying to paint these people as clowns when they clearly are not? Start the video at 6:45 to jump directly to the guys presenting their credentials. https://player.invintus.com/?clientID=6361162879&eventID=2021051030
Without going too deep into how the process has been out there, it’s important to note that right now the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors is in contempt of a Senate Subpoena that has been repeatedly held up in court, as has the audit. If the audit is ‘partisan’, the judge certainly doesn’t agree. The BOS has withheld 40% of the voting machines they were supposed to turn over, they have withheld admin passwords to the machines (which, stunningly, they admit to not having), and they have refused to turn over the servers. To be clear, Dominion has control of all of that. The county was not in control of its own elections, the election security standards in AZ law were not met, and the private company that ran the election there (and in places all across the country) is now claiming that their IP would be compromised by complying with a legal subpoena. This is the situation across the country and it will be repeated again and again to delay.
Speaking of delays, the goal here is to somehow get a Democrat win in 2022 so they can pass their election initiatives (which were just rejected in the Supreme Court Thursday). Their #1 policy agenda is HR1/S1 (now failed, but they’re still trying). Any summary reading of the measures in the bill will clearly show that each and every measure reduces election integrity/security to, ostensibly, increase “access”. There is no basis for the belief that there is any access issue, and the argument that requiring Voter ID is racist is itself a racist argument - black people are quite capable of getting ID. Voter ID is required in every country in Europe and most of the modern world. But here, it’s racist? This is the argument SCOTUS just rejected, but it’s the entire basis for HR1 supporters’ claims.
Without getting deep into universal, unsolicited vote-by-mail, ballot harvesting, extended early voting, reduced access to in-person voting, automatic registration at DMVs (including for illegals) etc…, just thinking about any of these should make clear that they’re all security disasters while pretending to fix a problem that simply does not exist.
Back to the audits: the ENTIRE process from start to finish has been streamed live on the internet with cameras all over the arena. Every move has been watched by thousands of people, literally, and there was a portal where they could point out anything suspicious. The auditors were American citizens who voted in Maricopa County from across the political spectrum. The number of audit volunteers I’ve heard is around 2000. They’re not ‘all in on it’.
And please take note of the people trying to slander the audit - all of them stand to lose their careers and, very likely, their personal freedom when the audit is finished. These people know what they’ve done. None of this was an accident, or human error, or a marginal difference. This is widespread, systemic fraud, across the country, to the tune of well over 10 million votes, and maybe (I believe likely) upwards of 20 million.
The machine fraud due to foreign interference by itself, without the fake ballots, etc… will reduce Biden’s vote total by 13 million. This is shown in something called “packet captures” which were recorded in real time during the election. They are not something that can be faked or refuted. This is what Mike Lindell was given, and the “Pillow Guy” happens to be an extremely successful entrepreneur who employs 2500 Americans, regardless of whether or not he has a ‘dumb voice’.
A note on Lindell: His suit against Dominion, led by Alan Dershowitz, has been allowed to proceed. In the suit, they show Dominion (a state actor) suppressing the speech of countless Americans. Dershowitz believes it will be the biggest 1st Amendment case in history. Lindell will also be entitled to ‘discovery’ from Dominion. Lindell isn’t some joke. This is all very real. So why would he be so consistently attacked? Why wouldn’t everyone just spend time proving him wrong INSTEAD OF spending time proving to Biden voters that they shouldn’t listen to him no matter what. Don’t you see the pattern? It’s exactly what they did with covid.
This is Lindell’s lawsuit and it’s packed with evidence of fraud and evidence of Dominion’s malfeasance on countless levels: https://creativedestructionmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/Lindell-Comp-1.pdf
He’s suing Dominion, as a state actor, and claiming RICO. It is quite literally proof of conspiracy racketeering to violate the FIRST AMENDMENT and COMMIT TREASON against the country by stealing an election in collaboration with FOREIGN ADVERSARIES.
This is not some joke. He’s not making it up. He’s not obsessed with Trump. He’s not running a psyop. He’s trying to save the country.
Again, he has the “packet captures” from election night. They are 100% verified and irrefutable.
As an aside, what could we have done as a society in response to the pandemic if people like me weren’t censored 15 months ago. You should see that it’s a grave national security and public health concern that elements of our response were delayed by 15 months because of intentional censorship.
Part of the reason I approach my podcast the way I do is that I’m setting down a direct record of everything we could have known if we were not censored. You can listen to episodes of my podcast from last May and know more about the coronavirus than people who get their knowledge from the mainstream media know to this day. Recall, 7 months ago I was forced to school a Biology PhD on the very things that are public knowledge now, and you saw it. There’s no grey area here. I was right. He was wrong. And I was right for the right reasons. He was wrong, probably because his career has depended on funding from the government and because he’s a strict adherent to Scientism and unswayed by evidence.
That’s no small problem when it’s repeated across a society, but back to the subject.
Representatives from 20 states have visited the audits. The Arizona audit is (and will be) considered the gold standard for audits around the nation and it will be copied and improved upon. Pennsylvania is now pushing to start one of their own, exactly the same, in multiple counties. Georgia is about to begin one in Fulton County, but on a smaller scale. They’re testing 147,000 ballot images and it is a near certainty that with merely THAT level of audit, they will have found more illegal votes than would be required to overturn the election.
Here is a podcast with the Secretary of State of Georgia, Brad Raffensperger, trying to safely walk back his last eight months of statements about the election being safe.
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/john-solomon-reports/id1495251160?i=1000527423515
He is attempting a total reversal of his prior position so he will not end up in prison, but he still will. His own office had a report on November 12th that there was so much malfeasance in Fulton County, no responsible person could ever certify it. This is all leaving aside that the entire election in Georgia is illegal because they changed their voting laws through a ‘consent decree’ between Brad Raffensperger and Stacey Abrams, a woman who still has not accepted the result of her own 2018 election and owns a piece of the company that hired the election workers. The SOS office is now trying to downplay the report, but it was their official, real time recording of election problems. Here is that report: https://www.scribd.com/document/512147073/Sos-7-Hill-Strategy-Fulton-County-Notes#download
The goal is to forensically audit the entire nation. Everything that happened in Arizona was approved of. Nothing was amiss. It’s not fake, it’s not silly, they’re not conspiracy theorists, and everything is open and transparent. That’s why Katie Hobbs, Stephen Richer, and other Arizona officials are constantly on television calling it all a lie. You can see the panic in their faces. Listen to the questions Anderson Cooper is asking and the answers Katie Hobbs is giving. Do they seem calm, rational, or even serious?
The Democrats have had the most powerful attorneys in the world out there trying to find any reason to shut the audit down. The Attorney General of the United States has threatened to shut it down and cannot. Isn’t it worth asking why? Are we to believe the Republicans are so powerful they’re just going to run over the entire nation with an election fraud lie? Isn’t it strange that they’re constantly saying that any result they get cannot be trusted? Why are they assuming they won’t find the exactly results reported by the SoS?
It’s not even just that the count is off and the results will be overturned - it’s that every single crime will be exposed. The Arizona auditors now have the ‘packet captures’, too. With that very evidence being the crux of what will be the Quo Warranto to remove Biden from office, why in the world would Mike Lindell give it to the Arizona auditors if they’re some joke? They’re not some joke, they’re professional auditors representing the ARIZONA SENATE. The Arizona Senate has the packet capture evidence involved in an active audit that is already under the purview of a judge.
What do you think that means? What kind of people would be introducing false evidence under these circumstances? How stupid do you think the other side is?
Now, this is only addressing your email. There are myriad other ways that the election was stolen and all of that will come out as well. Remember, we are only in this position because of censorship. There is no other way sensible people would not know the clear and obvious truth of this.
Consider that you’re being told by the media that you’re not allowed to have information because they just want to protect you. You’re being told that it’s dangerous, to you and everyone else, to even think about these subjects with an open mind.
That’s exactly the same argument they made for masks and covid censorship.
You can’t possibly believe you need censorship to protect you from “extremists” like me, can you? Of course you don’t. So who are they protecting?
(By the way, two days ago, Facebook released new tools to “help” if you have been exposed to “extremist content” and they’re asking if someone you know might be “an extremist”. There is a chance that by even clicking on the links in this email, you may begin seeing those messages. What does that mean?)
I’m going to attach some other supports, etc… here and then I will take apart those media sources.
This is a great resource: https://election-integrity.info/
<John Lott Report on Fraud.pdf>
<The Navarro Report Vol I, II, III - Feb. 2, 2021.pdf>
<antrim_michigan_forensics_report_[121320]_v2_[redacted].pdf>
THIS IS THE SECOND EMAIL, responding to the articles, etc…
I want to start by mentioning a couple things I forgot to mention in the prior email.
First, the NYC Democrat Mayoral primary just happened. I’m sure you’ve seen that they had entered 135,000 fake votes, “accidentally” reading ’test ballots’ that were mistakenly fed into the machine. This is exactly the claim in Georgia made by Susan Voyles, a twenty-year election worker. She testified at one of the Giuliani hearings December, and is among thousands of affidavits declaring the direct witness of fraud and illegality. There’s a reason we all knew last November - we watched the hearings. No one could possibly watch them and believe otherwise.
Here is Voyles: https://rumble.com/vjbna7-20-year-fulton-county-election-official-susan-voyles-says-test-ballots-adde.html
You have proof of the disastrous elections being run right in front of your eyes, which is why all the panicking op-eds this week were about how no one should even think this means anything about 2020. It’s laughable and pitiful at once, because people actually do as they’re conditioned to do and believe this!
Second, brain exercise:
Imagine instead that the position you hold is not the one “all educated, right-minded people” hold. First, it provably is not.
But beyond that, you might consider viewing it another way.
You may soon find yourself to be among the last in the country to realize the simple truth of some of the most important events of your life - ones that will effect your descendants long after you’re gone. What would this mean about who all the educated, right-minded people are?
I think I may have said this in December. There is an historic cost on being wrong about this. It is life or death, of individuals who speak out, like me, and of our society. You know there are Americans being held in solitary confinement since January for being at the Capitol. This while we know the FBI’s own informants staged the violence at the event. https://www.revolver.news/2021/06/federal-foreknowledge-jan-6-unindicted-co-conspirators-raise-disturbing-questions/
The DOJ is using the full apparatus put in place to “fight terrorism” against the American people. That’s after a year in which they employed intelligence technology and practices developed to propagandize and marginalize people in the Middle East to do the same to anyone challenging their narrative and agenda. They’re called Defeat Disnfo and they’re led by General Stanley McChrystal and a man named Curtis Hougland. You can check into their backgrounds, which I’ve done extensively, since one of their tools is paying celebrities to propagandize the public. I literally know people who are paid by the government to support left-wing causes.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/may/6/defeat-disinfo-use-ai-battle-trump-tweets-boost-co/
Main Street One is Curtis Hougland’s media operation. Here is their mission statement on their website. https://mainstreet.one/mission/
American taxpayers are paying Clinton hacks and former military/intel officials to propagandize the American public. Do you understand how sick it is to accept this sort of thing on the basis that your position - the one shared by an organization who does this with taxpayer money - is unquestionably correct?
To the Articles:
The first link, NBC op-ed. This is Mike Broomhead. He is a talk show host in Arizona. He has a website. This is it. https://mike-broomhead.com/
Seems like a fine guy. There’s also no indication he’s “the fastest growing voice in talk radio” on the two Arizona stations he’s on. His website is less interesting than mine, and there’s nothing on mine. Mine looks better too.
I only say this to make the point that even by credentialist standards, which most college educated people prioritize, this guy would not and should not be acceptable as a “writer for NBC News”. You import credibility to him because he’s writing an NBC article. This is no more important than me appearing on television shows.
Humbly, our credentials are no different, although I’m guessing I’m far more educated and knowledgable than he is and I would be more than happy to debate him on the world’s largest stage. I’m also a far superior writer and former of arguments. He would be eradicated.
I say this to point out that you may prioritize his poorly-supported opinion because his article appears on NBC News over the thousands of words I just wrote you with extensive supporting evidence from my own mind and research. Understand that I know everything on the other side too. It’s not luck that I can refute everything they say while they can’t refute anything I say. It’s not a coincidence.
The article is nothing more than the writer establishing his pro-Trump cred, which we must take at face value, sharing some links about Democrats complaining about election problems in the past, and then sharing a series of links that can be reduced to nothing quickly. Pick any of the links he shares and I will refute it or agree with it. I will not disagree with it without fully refuting it. I’m not sure what else I could offer.
For the record, here’s what Democrats say about election fraud: https://t.me/imyourmoderator/4909
There is also a documentary on HBO right now called Kill Chain where democrats explain, at length, that election fraud is very possible. Here’s a short clip: https://t.me/imyourmoderator/5553
In Kill Chain, there is a character named Harri Hursti who is one of the auditors in New Hampshire, where an actual fake audit is taking place. He is currently on video arguing the exact opposite of what he says to be true in the documentary. You could have watched the auditors in interviews where they are challenged and judge their answers for yourself, but YouTube has removed the video - an interview with the actual NH auditors.
Mike Broomhead’s piece shares a common opinion that is the result of the same dearth of information currently afflicting the left. When reading an op-ed like this, it’s important to actually click through to the links and see if the claims that the writer is taking as something “everybody knows” are actually true.
The common habit is not to click the links and simply accept them as true and supportive of the case, because this total stranger must have done the research or how could he publish something on GE’s news website? The less common habit is to click the link, see it’s from a source you know, and then assume it’s true. The least common habit is to click through, read the linked articles, and then question their truth.
The first link is to a Politico article which is a standard-fare hit-piece on the auditors. That’s fine. We’ve all read 100 of them.
This article is taking them to task for, among other things, not having ‘election auditing’ experience. This is a perfect time to address the point about prior audits being done. While that is ostensibly true, it’s worth examining exactly what the “audits” conducted by states require, who does them, the results that audits have found, and how the process works. We examine all those things, at length.
Without going too deep into it (although I will if you want me to), by and large, the audit is nothing more than results and accuracy tests, to make sure the same numbers are reported and then they’ll perform ‘random sample’ machine recounts to ensure that a level of accuracy is reached. They almost never move to even basic hand recounts.
It is a simple fact that no one claiming these states have done audits among normal people have even the slightest clue what those audits entail, or they’d be embarrassed to make the argument. You can think this is a harsh claim, but when there are 200,000+ ballots missing in Arizona, what then? Will that finally prove they didn’t actually “recount" the ballots in the “audits” I described above, accurately?
So which do you, as a discerning person, believe? The test samples of an audit you were told was done by the very people who committed the initial crime, or the full audit of every single vote performed by State Senate sanctioned auditors, approved by the judge, with the entire thing on video?
Does it make more sense to believe the Secretaries of State, Attorneys General, DAs, and Sheriffs put in office by George Soros (yes, for real, and easy to prove) that their audit was sufficient and accurate, when it’s done by the very people who put the system in place, or the people who have filmed the entire count on video under the request from the State Senate and judge, upheld under constant onslaught by Democrat lawfare groups?
Mike Broomhead actually mentions that "In order to believe that the 2020 election was stolen and is being covered up, one has to believe that the Maricopa County attorney, the Maricopa County sheriff, the current and former Maricopa County recorders and the entire Maricopa Board of Supervisors are all in on it. (They are not.)”
How does he know that? It’s easily proven that they all actually are, and the audit will prove this further. They are currently in contempt of a Senate Subpoena and have been for weeks. This is a copy of Senate President Karen Fann’s letter to the Board: https://chipleybugle.com/news/wp-content/uploads/5-12-21_Letter_to_Maricopa_County_Board.pdf
Here is the board’s response, if you’d like to compare: https://www.maricopa.gov/DocumentCenter/View/68972/20210517-Response-Letter-to-Senate-President-Fann---FINAL
You can check the ‘cyber ninjas’ video I sent in the prior email to see them quickly refute the Board’s ridiculous and unserious response.
Arizona will be the first state in the history of the country whose election was truly audited. The last time something even remotely similar was done was in 2000, and it’s a matter of historical record that the Democrats declined to recount the votes in other counties.
Now, one would assume that the links Mike Broomhead inserted in the article should be considered as representative of his basis of proof for his position. One would assume he’s read them all and they inform his opinion. These sources are viewed by an ever-shrinking segment of the country as authoritative. America is now #1 in the world for most distrusted media. Why is that?
So what we have is a self-promoting radio host with no more (and likely poorer) credentials than I have, writing a poorly researched opinion piece whose primary takeaway for someone accepting it is “even Trump supporters agree with me!”
This is a rhetorical trick used all the time - the argument that something must be true because even the member of the other side, who I selected, agrees. This is silly on its face, but especially silly when political affiliations mean absolutely nothing to anyone on our side. Republicans from the Vice President on down have committed grave crimes against the country. They will never win office again, and that would be a good outcome for them.
The Forbes article
This piece is written by a millennial staff writer, which obviously doesn’t refute anything in it, but it’s important to note when you’re deciding how much credit to give the person telling you what to believe. Here is her bio on Forbes: I am a New York-based journalist covering breaking news at Forbes. I previously covered politics and news for Vanity Fair and Mic, and as a theater critic I serve as a member of the New York Outer Critics Circle.
This is the New York Outer Critics Circle: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outer_Critics_Circle_Award
She is a staff writer whose priority is critique of plays.
Her first sentence calls the Arizona audit “partisan”. It’s being done by the State Senate, according to law. The word already biases the reader. Can you imagine a scenario where a mainstream article calls HR1 “partisan election legislation”? Of course not. But you can see Democrat Senator Joe Manchin refuse to vote for it because he, himself, calls it partisan. Now, it’s not partisan just because someone on the other side is saying it. It’s partisan because you can read the bill and every measure in it is a way for elections to be federalized and completely unaccountable forever, relying on all the people who just defrauded the nation.
There are people in America right now being prosecuted for ballot harvesting schemes, but Democrats want to make ballot harvesting legal nationwide. Why?
Thankfully, the Supreme Court just ruled against ballot harvesting on Thursday, so there is not only Supreme Court precedent for that, the Democrats argued that banning ballot harvesting was racist, and the Supreme Court specifically shot down that absurd claim. That precedent will knock down the ridiculous suit the DOJ is bringing against Georgia, claiming their election integrity bills (which are very weak) are racist.
They argue this on the basis that Voter ID is racist, because they assume black people can’t get ID. That is one of the most racist ideas imaginable and somehow nearly every Biden voter believes it. Joe Biden himself said that black people don’t know how to use computers or the internet. (Happy to find video, but irrelevant.)
She lists three ‘critics’. One is Tom Wolf, one of the worst governors in the country, who enabled fraud while imposing some of the most absurd covid restrictions in the nation. Tom Wolf is vetoing election integrity bills and oversaw the unconstitutional implementation of new election rules, which the state carried through with, even though the courts instructed them not to.
Josh Shapiro, AG, is a regular panicking guest on CNN. He tweeted out that Biden would win PA if all the ‘votes’ were counted. That’s an odd thing for a public official to be doing.
The final one, to be “bipartisan”, is the Republican City Commissioner of Philadelphia, a place more known for election fraud than anywhere in the country aside from maybe Chicago and Detroit. Liberal Chris Matthews used to joke about election corruption in Philadelphia often. Philadelphia was also one of the main places funded by Mark Zuckerberg’s CTCL, which paid for the city’s drop boxes, election judges, etc… There is ongoing litigation about this in Wisconsin right now, as it was discovered that the CTCL/Facebook representative took over the running of the election there in Green Bay.
Why would one of the richest people in the world pay half a billion dollars to predominantly Democrat areas (only D areas until people caught on) to “help” with the election? He says it’s ‘for covid’. He has all of everyone’s information. He is now employing a tool for people to report on their neighbors for thought crimes. This isn’t a joke. It isn’t a conspiracy. https://thepostmillennial.com/facebook-begins-issuing-disturbing-warnings-about-extremism-to-users?utm_campaign=64471
She notes that PA has performed a “Risk Limiting Audit”. These are done on samples, as noted above. These are specifically designed to confirm results, not detect fraud.
She then lists the “background” of the audit, which are ’things everyone knows’ to reassure readers that her opinion is valid and that they don’t need to worry, because the Forbes staff writers have already solved all the problems. She also mentions polling that says Arizonans don’t want the audit. The country is currently at 71% in the number of people who are not opposed to the audit. Here is the poll she’s referencing: https://www.politico.com/f/?id=0000017a-53b6-d92f-a1fe-d3f62f8b0000
Here is how the question is asked:
But here is the question that they asked just prior, without opining on the audit to “give more information”:
Notice how that biasing shifts the numbers. Then consider what people are told constantly about the audit from mainstream media.
Even with that extraordinary bias, Rasmussen finds only 29% opposition to forensic auditing nationwide. The polling doesn’t fall on this writer’s side.
Her last ’tangent’ is an “expert” providing “expertise” about how no one knows what a forensic audit does. There is no evidence whatsoever that he’s right about that claim. Guess where this ‘elections expert’ does his very important work - https://www.influencewatch.org/non-profit/center-for-election-innovation-research/
That’s Mark Zuckerberg’s group! Isn’t that strange?
The Bloomberg Article:
I’m not sure this is worth even discussing. It’s an interview with Secretary of State of Arizona Katie Hobbs. Her life is on the line because she committed a crime she was told she would never be held accountable for. She is now running for Arizona Governor. Carefully read her responses. Do they sound like the responses of someone who knows she ran a clean election? Of course not.
TOB: And what is that objective?
KH: To continue to undermine the integrity of our elections. To perpetuate the big lie that the 2020 election was stolen, which is damaging to our democracy in and of itself. It lays the groundwork for the loser in any election to demand this kind of audit. Even if you take out all of the dangers to democracy, this is consuming time and resources that right now should be focused on preparing for the 2022 election. I think it’s also so important to emphasize that we have post-election auditing already built into the process. There’s a period of time that people can bring evidence to court if they think something happened. And those periods of time have all passed and there was no evidence [of fraud] and the losers cannot just continue to do this. It’s like you lost the Super Bowl and kept trying to do replays after the game is over.
Is it even believable that they might be doing all of this to ‘undermine the integrity of our elections’?
Katie Hobbs has had every opportunity to participate in the election audit and declined. She has now turned to saying that there’s no way Trump can be reinstated anyway.
But the real question is, how do we continue with a president in office who everyone knows is a fraud?
We won’t have to wait much longer for the answer to that question.